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  1. Hi Guys, the site isn’t set up to allow comments on the actual Etsy/TBN post, so I’m posting it here. I hope you get it.

    HEAR HEAR, SISTAHS! I’m also an Etsy seller and have been for a number of years. 99% of my sales are through facebook because Etsy sucks the life from me. I barely put in any effort there because I went from getting hundreds of views a day to none. Literally none. I’m also at a disadvantage because I sell knitted items. And let’s face it. There are 50,000 other knitters selling their shit on Etsy. As well, Three Bird Nest, and another “company” you should check out is Lace&Grace, are my competitors. All those lovely knit stockings/legwarmers/headbands/cowls are what I make. But … I actually knit them. So those are my competitors and I’ve been asked, repeatedly, if I could make leg warmers like the ones Lace & Grace sells. Well, if you check out their prices, that’s a laugh. Leg warmers, in my shop, start off at a minumum 40$. You want lace style? You’re looking at 100$. Who will pay 100$ for lacy leg warmers?

    Anyhow. You ask who the woman in the picture is. TBN founder, in repeated interviews, says it’s her sister. It’s a lie. It’s actually a model that they pay.
    She also has three brick and mortar stores where she sells her junk.
    She also came up with an idea, some baby hugger type thing, and she and her husband sold the company and made a fortune.
    You can find shipping bills online that show where her junk has shipped from, what the items are, how many pieces there are, and what the cost is. We’ve found them before so I know, if you want, you will, too.

    I take comfort in Karma and yes, her reviews as of the past year have steadily declined. So much so that I wonder why anyone purchases from her!

    Keep the faith, ladies. If you’re in the states then check out aftcra.com

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    • Thank you for the heads up on aftcra.com I just checked it out and I plan on selling there. I still have my LoftyLady shop on etsy because I have some past customers who still come back and buy from me but I’ll tell them when I start selling elsewhere and get as far away from the money hungry etsy as I can.

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  2. I am an etsy seller too…. and my items are all handmade by me, except for the few vintage items that I have… I am struggling too… and finding it very difficult to deal with the influx of China goods and have complained several times….but to no avail… My shop Bertha Louise Designs, named for my Nana, is jewelry designed and made by me, handset vintage jewels, as much as possible, some jewels are new… and Altered Couture clothing, sewn and embellished by me from mostly vintage and recycled materials… I love making things and making them prettier…and to be perfectly blunt.. would love some play on the media stage, that I am the genuine article on etsy… not some rich person with tons of money for advertising and I am one who takes pride in my work and designs and am just soo worn out for the three years I have been on etsy… if you have a minute check out my shop and see what I am talking about, see if I may be someone to promote, or shop from…for I am the artist and designer of the items in my shop… I like making pretty things to make others happy and feel good about themselves…some of my items are similar to other shops… I mean there is only just so many ways to make a single stone earring… but most of my items are one of a kind. My name is Angela, and I am a frustrated seller….. Bertha Louise Designs

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  3. I too am a seller on etsy. I have noticed this shit going on about 2 years ago and boy did I go nuts on etsy but to this day they never responded to my complaints about Chinese bullshit being sold by the tens of thousands!! I am a box maker and wood turner. Everything I sell on etsy I make by my own hand and I see stuff like the quote hand made wooden phone cases and at first the company had sold 132 but what I didn’t realize was that was for one day!!! About a month later I went back to see if they were selling other types of items but much to my amazement that company had sold over 8000 wooden phone cases!! Boy was I pissed I emailed etsy 4 times that day demanding they be stop and kicked out of the etsy store ! Well its 2 years later and I never got a answer and that company from China selling hand made home made items had 10 of thousands of those cases sold!!! Etsy has shit all over its sellers I have tried to get other sellers to band with me and boycott etsy for at least one week and not pay their bill for 2 months we could bring etsy down at least low enough to change their ways some what. But not one person would join me! Cowards that’s all I can say and I sell on face book artfire and even some craft shows. I hate etsy and all their dirty stinking lying people! Once again the mom and pop get it stuck in our asses! Please let me know if you would like to try something to get etsy to stop letting China kill our sales??

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    • I don’t claim to be Moses leading his/her (Etsy) people into the promised land, but I’m happy to try to work toward changes.
      One commenter just suggested the removal of the made in China tag could be illegal…I’ll check.
      I would also be happy to start a petition.
      I’ve considered a class action lawsuit threat to force changed.
      Lastly, I’d happily boycott Etsy and help organize it.

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      • Has anyone mentioned or noticed another shop with the same name but an “s” on the end? She selling a similar item and claims to be all handmade….she opened last November but hasn’t sold anything. I haven’t read all the comments here so forgive me if I’m being redundant.

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      • YAY, you Go! Etsy will get their comeuppance!
        They started out so nicely but in the end they sold out to the dollar which is the root of all evil.
        I started with them in 2008 and I have watched them slowly turn against the artists who believed in them and got them on their feet.
        Then they turned their backs on us and became just another dollar store except they are a dollar store who makes everyone thing they are buying from struggling handmade artist in the USA all the while allowing people to sell their 3rd country wares at huge profits.
        I just wish an HONEST handmade site would blow etsy out of the water!!!
        I am hoping that the investigations that have started since etsy went public will make the first dent in their armour and eventually sink their ship.
        In the meantime we need to try and spread the word the best we can, too many etsy sellers are still drinking the koolaid.

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      • Actually the removal of the Made in China tag is illegal. I majored in fashion and one of things they made us test in repeatedly was the the government regulations when it comes to tags. One of the things that must be on there is where the item is made. You can look up the regulations . There are a few websites.

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    • I agree … etsy has been going down hill for a few years. I just closed 2 shops – 13,000 sales in a Jewelry shop and the other was vintage with 14,000 sales. I have seen it all over 6 years of being on etsy and this time is the worst yet. It is like watching a sinking boat where people/shops are bailing it out with handmade glitter covered plastic spoons.

      Etsy is going down and the sooner the better. The administration turns a blind eye to China Slave shops and obvious illegal merchandise (copyright infringed – like Disney’s Frozen) …… then ruthlessly go after smaller shops for silly issues that could be taken care of with a little heads up email from etsy admin. They are wicked!

      Etsy makes most of their sales/money from the top Supply sellers – which with the new etsy search greatly hurts handmade sellers since it is all mixed until a customer chooses a category. If a customer searches ‘compass point earrings’ to purchase JEWELRY — they now see all categories of compass points, which includes the supplies to make them. Once a customer sees the cost of supplies why pay for the earrings … it is cheaper to make their own?? Thus the ever decreasing sales this year.

      I wish people would just stop buying supplies on etsy. That would hurt etsy the most financially. That little change might actually give etsy back to the handmade world.

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      • Maybe if you didnt charge such high prices for your handmade crap, people wouldnt resort to buying the supplies and making it themselves! You say you want to hurt etsy, but what your really doing is trying to hurt the buyers eho cant afford your ridiculously high prices!

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      • Handmade items aren’t crap, they are handmade items. No one is demanding that you buy a handmade item, they are asking Etsy to ban non-handmade items from the site.
        Contrary to me wanting to “hurt Etsy” – I have a Etsy store. I don’t want them “hurt” – I want them to be honest.

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  4. I just wanted to let you know, in case you haven’t seen it yet – it looks like the Three Bird Nest Etsy shop has been removed!

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  5. I have so much enjoyed EVERYTHING you have written here. And you are such a wonderful writer, I wanted to read more and not stop.

    While looking for TB again, I came across ANOTHER shop that is selling same thinga she is down to using the same Alibaba pics with same models, especially the dark skinned leg ones. They are not as successful, at least for now, as TB but how many more of these scammers are on Etsy?? Check this one out:
    https://www.etsy.com/shop/StayWarmInStyle?ref=shopsection_shophome_leftnav Wonder who else we can alert.

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  6. Sadly, looks like Etsy & TBN reached some sort of agreement-her sales are picking back up, got some fake 5 star reviews, some items have disappeared & the monsters are being fed again…Etsy is the devil!

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  7. With all the bad press Etsy is getting in the financial world and their stock dismally down yesterday why in the world are they continuing on this same track? I like to think I’m a logical person but this defies all logic to me.

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    • Because the risk is worth the profit to these greedy, deceitful creeps. There is no logic here. It is $$$ at any cost. Etsy assumes they can dupe us all. Obviously they do not give a shit about their real handmade or vintage sellers. They can mute us, ignore us, condescend to us, redefine words, bury our shops…but they can’t blow off their shareholders like they have us.

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  8. I agree with what you’re saying but if the stock is not performing well and apparently it’s not, that’s not going to make the shareholders too happy. I know they don’t give a crap about it’s sellers…I have felt that for a long time. How does it make sense for them to stay on the same road with all the issues the press has called out about them? According to what I’m reading that’s the reason the stock is under performing. If they are all about the money…wouldn’t they try to correct it? I know they won’t change anything to help the sellers…that’s a given…but if they are in cahoots with the likes the TBN isn’t that the exact thing that’s hurting them on Wall St.?…or just color me very confused.

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    • Etsy is a corporation-now publicly traded. The prospect for gaining more money lies with mass-produced factory goods. You’ll note how Etsy now has changed the emphasis from “handmade” to “UNIQUE.” My thought is that they are phasing out real vintage & real artisans because there is more profit in being Etsymart. Of course, they will still have to clean up all the counterfeit & copyright infringing shops. But resellers of crap are lined up. Quantity not quality is the new mantra. I envision some extreme “policy changes” & a new round of redefined words…

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  9. No matter how hard you try to figure out Etsy (Chad’s) motives, tactics, plots & plans & deceit…it is far more devious & evil & soul-sucking than my mind can comprehend. It is like playing chess with the devil. Ha!

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  10. The day I heard Chad say those words…”We are redefining handmade” and or “re-imagining e-commerce” my first thought was…well that’s awfully pompous…rewriting the meaning of the English language are we? The 2nd thought was “and so it begins.”…and it hasn’t stopped. The thing that makes them all appear so low is their silence. Silence breeds contempt & mistrust and that’s a very slippery slope.

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  11. I am really getting an education here and I thank you for setting this up. I’ve been on Etsy for over 9 years. I enjoy an international audience. I have a mix of vintage, supply, art and gifts collected, however, it’s mostly my handmade jewelry. I wanted to expand with my line of textiles and small outdoor accent furniture. Etsy made it impossible with the “handmade ethical guidelines” by asking me to reveal all my sources. I wouldn’t. They are my trade secret based in Lake Como Italy and Germany and happen to weave textiles for Missoni, Williams Sonoma, etc. Big brands. My chance to branch out my aesthetic was impossible on Etsy and we got into a terrible fight and it was unbelievable how I was treated. The good thing about Etsy is it’s ease to set up a store for a first timer. To utilize their workshops, connect with other artisans, curate treasuries to feed into your brand build. However, you can’t expand. You can never graduate. You can never have a trade secret unless you reveal the other hands helping you. That is total BS and opens the tiniest little crafter to idea theft – quite frankly the biggest crime here. I know China is the big huge global offender however, they are also producing product by hand. And, their items are already here. Do we landfill every piece with Made In China sticker on it? Add to the Great Pacific Trash Patch? We have to think holistically now. Use what is around us already. Etsy is full of shit. And so is America for giving tax breaks to big brands taking labor oversees. Countless examples on why globalization isn’t working. At the end of that day when some Brooklyn Etsy rep was telling me off on line, after I pointed out that my fees were never questioned in practically a decade, I chose to expand everywhere else but on Etsy. I keep limited stock there due to past clients that return. We have to continue to share info as you’ve done here. We have to be our own advocates. We need to support each other.

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  12. ETSY pulled some of my handcrafted leather and sent a letter stating that the Confederate is nothing more than a symbol of HATE.

    First, it was a stamped in leather design of the Battle flag of Northern Virginia. NOT the Confederate flag but hey, they make the rules so they can be a narrow minded as they want.

    Informed them that I was not a believer in censorship and that I would be sending them a large jar of Vaseline so as to better facilitate the shoving of ETSY up their self righteous ass.

    Yet it is still OK to sell stuff made in China by underpaid children and call it hand made.

    Guess I will have to try other websites to sell on.

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  13. Every picture has a story “don’t it” ?

    I was with you every step of the way and then my 3rd grade teacher Mrs. Nottingham rose up out of her grave and shook her head before returning.

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  14. Well, I see I’m a bit tardy for the party but boy am I glad to have found your blog! I literally thought myself and maybe 2 other people were finding a decrease in sales on etsy, but the more I research the more I see that people are doing exactly what I had to do…start my own website. When I first started selling on etsy I was a full-time teacher and I watched my sales go from supplemental to exacting my teaching salary. Then out of nowhere after in 2014 they plummeted>:/ The etsy seller handbook is a joke…it worked years ago, but now that so many things aren’t handmade, you can work your a** off doing everything they say and you’ll still be on page 20 in the search. I used to get 5000+ views a month, but now it’s less than half of that. I’ll def check out aftcra.com (thank you for the information)…considering the fact that starting your own website is pretty much starting from scratch unless you’re like TBN. I am literally appalled to have gone to multiple etsy shops and seen the same exact models for the same exact knits…no wonder the real handmade/vintage artists can’t be found!! This forum is so helpful yet makes me want to throw up all at the same time (only bc I can’t believe how much of a scam etsy has become). Thank you so much for this info:)

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  15. I remember when vintage clothing wasn’t that expensive on etsy.
    It was only 2010 you could get great items!
    You can’t get any deals on etsy. Because it’s an oversaturated website.
    eBay still has the best deals.

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  16. I’ve tried twice to use my etsy store for different items, vintage and handmade. Unless I want to pay to “promote” my stuff, no one will ever see it. I turned around, both times, and listed the exact same things in ebay – got more views in 2 hours on ebay than I did in three weeks on etsy. I might make a teensy bit less on ebay, but they stand behind me as a seller and they have rules which they apply fairly. They also won’t allow people to get away with murder, stealing your pics or your products. etsy sucks.

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