High Hope Aglory

There are far more outraged Etsy sellers who are wise to the ways of ThreeBirdNest than I’d originally thought. And there appears to be no shortage of disgusted customers of that shop either. They’ve all had some choice words about ThreeBirdNest’s un-level playing field or the poor condition of the merchandise they spent $30 on and waited 30 days to receive.

After my first blog was published, I was sent the following link from one of Alicia’s less than thrilled customers:

http://www.importgenius.com

Import Genius isn’t trying to expose anyone, it’s actually trying to sell it’s services to any potential importer. But in the process of selling themselves, they…well…kinda sold out Etsy’s favorite golden child’s “handmade” store ThreeBirdNest.

This link contained fascinating little details, such as which recent (slow) boat from China carried ThreeBirdNest’s “handmade” goods safely to the Oakland docks.  (It was called Hanjin New York in case you are dying to know).   Additionally, this link alerted us that contrary to “High Hope Aglory” being the name of a recent Kentucky Derby winner, it was actually the name of the CHINESE factory where all the cheap shit people are buying from ThreeBirdNest was made.  3,600 POUNDS of cheap shit, to be more precise.

Stay with me, because although I’m the world’s most hesitant mathematician, I think I’ve got this equation down cold. Let’s imagine for the moment that the average weight of one piece of shit destined for ThreeBirdNest’s California home was 8 ounces. If that was a good average weight, it would equal a total of roughly 7,200 pieces of shit that Hanjin helped flood the “handmade” Etsy market with.  I know what you’re thinking, because I’m thinking the same thing.

Yep. That’s a shitload of cheap shit.

After my first blog flew out into social media land, an outraged Etsy seller commented that she’d been permanently muted on Etsy forums because apparently, similar to my experience, Etsy’s bipolar set of guidelines really meant “if you can’t say something nice (about Etsy or ThreeBirdNest) then don’t (we won’t allow you) to say anything at all.”  All this high handed control running rampant in the land of the First Amendments guarantee of freedom of speech.

Wowzer. How duplicitous of them.

Yet another unfortunate buyer of a piece of High Hope Aglory’s “handmade” junk sent me a picture of her $30 item’s label reading “made in China”.  Apparently one of Alicia’s California factory team managers forgot to remove that little nuisance tag prior to shipping it.

Double wowzer.  Sounds like one of the five managers needs to be fired.

Or promoted for actually being honest.

Unfortunately so far (see my previous blog) no one from ThreeBirdNest has called yet to buy my inventory at a hugely reduced price. Nor has anyone at ThreeBirdNest responded to my blog, of which I did send a copy to their shop; subject line “BUSTED”.

That’s understandable. They’re pretty busy over there. You know, knitting stuff and soldering jewelry. Oh, and they’re also a little sidetracked taking field trips to the Oakland docks on a regular basis. With a semi truck.

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65 thoughts on “High Hope Aglory

  1. To stir the pot further, go to aliexpress , also in China. I found the same blonde modeling those same headbands .Go to the site and search for headbands women and she’s the second one down. The seller is giving 20% off! I have 3 Etsy shops to cover all the allowed catagories. However, i am thinking about closing.What little sales i have been getting go towards my most monthly fees.

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  2. have you heard of a selling site called handmadeartists.com?
    They had gotten tired of the etsy policies and started this site.
    The cost is $5.00 a month, no matter how much you list or sell.
    They don’t have the traffic that etsy does, but they might be the next big thing. All items have tone handmade and they don’t allow vintage.
    You can actually email the owners and get a quick reply.
    Please check it out and tell me what you think.
    Thank you,
    Charlotte

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  3. TBN May be Sneaky but they have their asses covered. When they forget to remove the China tags, they just say “oh whoops – that’s the wrong item, that was meant for our website customers”. I’d also like to point out that for the rest of us – even 2 or 3 non-delivery cases will get our shops SHUT DOWN at least temporarily. TBN was and has been getting multiple negative reviews from people saying right there in the reviews that they opened cases against her, and YET she was still doing business as usual, and still making 10-20 sales a DAY. NOBODY else on Etsy would ever be allowed to continue running their shop with that kind of performance. ETSY plays favorites, and I hope now that they are a PUBLIC TRADED ENTITY They get their two faced, ass handed to them on a NASDAQ platter.

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  4. Great article. I have 2 etsy shops and truly handmakeevery upcycled piece of clothing, headband end accessory , and it’s a,azingly beautiful items.. That don’t sell because of these manufactured resellers. I also have a knit/crochet shop with not to many items because guess what? It takes a while to hand kint/crochet something! It’s truly disheartening that etsy has strayed from their ” handmade” salute they once were so proud of. Now, shops like “Threebirdsnest” reap the benefits of a hearty income for items they don’t even make. If they want a website, fine. But it shouldnt be on etsy. Who is up for a petition to bring handmade back to Etsy? It’s time our voices are heard.

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    • I am all in for a petition to shut down stores like TBN and restore Etsy to it’s original site – and to require them to let their store owners know when they suddenly switch their spending gears on marketing spending so that we can cover our store’s asses and back off on our own spending for listing items and making or finding vintage items to go through the long process of photographing, describing and listing – which Etsy collects 20 cents on whether we sell it or not.

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  5. This is definitely an eye opener. As an Etsy seller and shop owner who works endlessly to produce quality items that are HANDMADE, I am now thinking of shutting down my shop after reading this article. I spent hours marketing my items through social media, as well as marketing my website through the same outlets. Thank you for posting this article and giving us all the chance to review the platform where we sell our items.

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  6. I really don’t know why no one has taken ETSY to court yet….. I mean they must pay sometime, sooner or later! It is all fraud, and resellers sell, on the backs of the people who really made handmade items….

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    • Right? Etsy stock will start slipping, then there’s a decision to be made. They will have to pick between an eBay-type site or go back to their roots. No one respects them any longer and pretty soon all the little stores will fall away. I’m having weekly garage sales for pennies on the dollar 😦

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  7. Awesome article. I’d sign. I have one shop and I do impeccable HAND MADE work IN my HOME with MY hands. Ditto on everything you’ve blogged. Though this falls from the Made in China label, I am sick of copycats. Where a particular copycat has been trolling my shop since 2013 and makes poorly made copies of my “easier” to make products in the same exact fabric and undercutting my prices in half… She claims to be the Home of SMASH CAKE which she is not. Just a copycat that also imports from CHINA… There’s no real way to fight the infringement and the importing. Social media filtering has reduced my visibility. I feel for you all. What can we do??? Etsy isn’t going to lose their fatted calf.

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  8. The “blonde” is the store owner’s sister and the images of her were stolen by Alibaba and used illegally. If you hadn’t kept referring to those photos in your article as nefarious it would have read much better. But because of your lack of due diligence on your research, this write up doesn’t hold much weight.

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    • *I originally wrote that Three Bird Nest model, Alexa Gill, was Alicia Shaffer’s sister. Although Alicia Shaffer has stated in multiple places that Alexa Gill is her sister, and on Sunday Feb. 22 Alexa Gill added Alicia Shaffer as her sister on Facebook, she is in fact of no relation.

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    • Actually it makes it hold weight even more. Even though the imges of the blonde are stolen from TBN, why do you think the Chinese site is able to use them? Because the items they are selling are all the SAME PRODUCTS. They are simple using the photography, because it’s easier than taking photos themselves.

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  9. I bought one of those “fake” headbands, just to see. It’s horrible. It took forever (which I can forgive) but it is TIGHT and it’s scratchy and I should have known. Now I just use it as a pony tail holder.

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  10. This is amazing. And to think that I was suckered in by Etsy. I really thought that if it said “handmade” on Etsy, it was handmade. To drive this home, Etsy required me to send pictures of the process of me making my handmade wood pens. Why are they holding me to standards that, evidently, not all are?

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    • I’d like any correspondence you have, plus how they required you to prove your items were handmade…that’s absolutely outrageous. How did they first contact you? Did your store get “reported”? I’ve flagged TBN’s items as not “handmade” and so far…silence.

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    • I completely agree. I refused to jump through some of the hoops ETSY asked me to jump through in order to prove I am making my work by hand. Then….I got kicked off ETSY. THEY KICKED ME OFF. I recently was thinking about re-opening a store….and now….I am not sure what to think. I don’t have the time to waste!

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  11. I saw this review left today (for the black jersey headband) and was just amazed at their response. I mean, are people out there so gullible that they believe their other headbands (that look EXACTLY the same, just made out of different colored materials) are handmade and not Made in China as well?

    It’s sad, because they claim that they put local mom’s to work making handmade items. However, I think the extent of handmaking they are doing in their shop is literally ripping “made in China” tags off of the merchandise that they import specifically for their Etsy shop.

    https://www.etsy.com/shop/ThreeBirdNest/reviews?page=3

    What I don’t understand is how the Federal Government isn’t involved in this. I know that there are strict rules for items being sold that are made in other countries and the labeling that is required. I have a sneaking suspicion that they are doing something that really isn’t allowed on some of their items, if they are made in China, that label legally has to stay on them…… I just don’t get it.

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  12. I know for absolute certainty that Three Bird Nest (TBN) sells factory made product on Etsy and emailed Etsy about it last year. They basically blew me off. A lot of that product IS handknit. That’s as far as it goes and is still done in a mass production format. She’s walking a really fine line and getting away with it. I’d be curious to see how she retags the product for Etsy sales. If she’s claiming it’s made in the US, that is completely false.

    Years ago I sold a lot of product I made on Etsy, and as my business grew and evolved, moved to overseas production and stopped selling on Etsy. I am blown away that TBN is allowed to continue to sell on there.

    Alibaba sellers steal best selling product ideas and images, and have had my own battles with them over this. I spend a great deal of time developing product and $$ getting photos. Don’t fault TBN for those products and images showing up on Alibaba.

    Seattle Times ran an interesting article in March about TBN and Etsy. http://www.seattletimes.com/business/etsy-experiences-handcrafted-growing-pains-pre-ipo/

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  13. Have you thought about offensive your blog name may be to anyone who has been assaulted? Using that word to describe the conduct of a business you willingly signed up for is inappropriate at best and incredibly reductive at worst.

    As for Etsy and business, it’s Biz 101 to have a back-up plan. Putting your things on Etsy and using it as your sole way to do business is bad business, because if they do something you don’t like, you’re screwed.

    I write this not to cause a stir, but for anyone with assault in their past who was greatly offended by your blog name. And to the writer, if you want legitimacy, please get some compassion first.

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    • As I’ve explained before, rape also means to plunder and pillage. I respect your concern, however you are not aware of my background, nor what I consider assault. I see what is happening to honest and hard working Americans as massive plunder and pillage.
      I don’t claim to know everything or to speak in a p.c. way at all times, I only live by the concept of evil triumphing when good people say nothing.

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      • Saying Etsy raped America is sensationalist, immature BS.

        You signed up for Etsy. People don’t sign up for rape. End of story.

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    • Betsy, please, get educated. This is not the only place where Etsy is being criticized by its shady commerce practices. Check this:

      Wedbush’s Gil Luria and Aaron Turner are concerned about fake goods on the site (emphasis added):

      Our research indicates as many as 2 million items on Etsy (>5% of all merchandise) may potentially be either counterfeit or constitute trademark or copyright infringement. We believe the share of GMS may be greater considering Etsy has become a go-to destination for counterfeits. Counterfeit candidates include items infringing on Louis Vuitton, Chanel and Michael Kors, as well as a wide range of Disney and NFL brands. Sample of high risk listings indicates some violations may be 20x more likely on Etsy than eBay and even more likely than Alibaba’s Aliexpress.

      In early trading on Monday, shares of Etsy were down 9%.

      The analysts say Etsy could get away with this legally, based on the precedent set by the Tiffany & Co.-versus-eBay inc. lawsuit, which eBay won. The case decided it was the responsibility of the trademark owners, not the online platform, to find the fake products and ask for them to be removed.

      “If Etsy chooses to continue to ignore these potential violations, we believe it could tarnish its brand with both buyers and sellers,” the firm wrote. “Considering the broad backlash on Alibaba regarding inauthentic merchandise, we expect added scrutiny given the social responsibility ethos at the core of its Etsy’s brand.”

      Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/wedbush-downgrades-etsy-on-fake-goods-concerns-2015-5#ixzz3ZsC507Vk

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    • Oh come on…really gonna go there?! Seriously, have you NEVER heard the terms “raping, pillaging, plundering” used in the context of big business, historical battles, political actions, etc??? Would you have all textbooks remove any reference to “raping & pillaging” let’s say for example, regarding the atrocities the “conquerers” perpetrated against Native Americans? Get a REAL cause! And, by the way, I AM A WOMAN!

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  14. Now, Now Now Betsy Geer. What would you suggest? None of us took this to be one of the definitions of rape. There are a couple. Its easy to comment when you have not invested thousands of dollars into a website that represented themselves as a venue of of handmade goods, vintage items and supplies. When Mr. Chad took over, he changed the rules without telling us all before hand, changed our descriptions and would not own up that “his” site looked like ebay. Of course he was positioning himself for an IPO. Do you you know who makes money during an IPO? The management team. Big time. I have held a corporate position that paid me a million dollar salary. Yes, Etsy has pillaged it sellers at the expense of frauds. My partner designed most of the the jewelry for Anne Klein, Chico’s, Guess, Espirit to name a few. It is simply disgusting the stores that purport to have handmade goods. We know that there is no way possible. We feel like the stockholders of Enron and the partners and employees of Arthur Andersen. It would put a little smile on my face if Etsy has the same fate. It would be a wonderful case for a class action lawyer (I think they could overcome any arbitration clause on a individual basis) hat that would contain his or her’s percentage.
    There are other sites that compete with Etsy. However they do not have the exposure or recognition. The best thing to do is find a venue that will stay true to the homemade community – such as Artfire, etc. Perhaps we should start investing in these people and look for venture capital for them to grow. Its just a thought. We have to start looking for solutions.

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    • Barbara, Etsy hasn’t just changed things without them being made public. At some point it was all posted somewhere. People (including me to a point) thought they were all about handmade and we forgot that they are a business. (Originally, they were about handmade, but that changed several years ago.) You are free to sell your things wherever you want. If people have their own website, they can sell with whatever platform they want. If Etsy has done anything, it has made people think it’s the end-all be-all of handmade. If you have strong traffic to your own site, then Etsy can be out of the picture. However, if you only sell on Etsy, you’re screwed because you have no other platform.

      As for rape. It’s offensive as f*ck (no pun intended) to me, because you all can leave Etsy at any time. I sure as hell couldn’t leave when I was attacked. There was no other option. You have a choice whether to deal with Etsy or not. It’s an option, not something that is forced on you. And to say literally no one took it that way, you have zero idea how many people saw the name of this site and said, “immature tossers” and didn’t even bother to read.

      No, I don’t sell on Etsy, but I’ve been around the craft scene for the past 14 years and have seen it go from tiny small message boards to Livejournal to blogs to the NYT. You have solutions. LEAVE ETSY. I think I’ve said all I can here, because obvs, you drank the Kool-Aid and are fighting to change something instead of just leaving and standing on your own two feet. Invest in your own site. Stop relying on Etsy. Put your energy in a forward-moving capacity and not a soul-sucking one. Best of luck.

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      • Don’t worry… if Etsy doesn’t straighten up their act soon, everyone will be leaving it, except for people like you and the owner of Three Birds Nest.

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      • When the port strike was in the news regularly (maybe 6 months or so ago) was when TBN began having endless “shipping problems” & major delays. Then if you look at the negative feedback around this same time, this is when she begins using the “moving our warehouse” excuse. She says it was moved to Ohio-far from the port strike zone??? This fiasco began around Xmas & continues to this day…Such a shame she couldn’t fulfill her orders ’cause the China shipments were held up!

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      • Knitted Scarf, Chevron Knit, Navy Blue, Knitted Scarves, Women’s Fashion Knit Scarf for Winter Cold Weather (SCF-3919)

        WORST ONLINE TRANSACTION EVER! Never received this item. It took a month to get a full and accurate refund. Shop did not acknowledge my request on the order to be notified if product would be delayed and was incredibly slow to respond to multiple inquiries. At times I felt completely scammed and helpless. I wish I had heeded the other reviews and looked elsewhere.
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        Response by ThreeBirdNest (shop owner)

        We are terribly sorry, over the holidays we did have a bunch of issues that led to us being overwhelmed and not shipping orders on time, and our customers not getting responded too quickly. ALL of this has been corrected and we only want you to be happy with us, even if we did mess up. Again we apologize and hope we may earn back your trust at some time. Our customers mean the world to us and always have. xo
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        (Here is one example of the issues regarding shipping problems & her beginning to make excuses. This is from Feb I believe. Hold on…there’s more to come! )

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      • Turban Headband Women’s Solid Jersey Hair Band, Headband, or Head Wrap with Twisted Center for Women and Girls in Mint (HB-158)

        I ordered an item from them almost a month ago, they have lied to me repeatedly, I opened a case AND requested a refund before they decided to ship it so now I obviously no longer want the item. I could care less that they updated the case with the tracking number- which by the way, has NO delivery date scheduled so in just a few days it will be a MONTH since I ordered this item and weeks after they originally claimed it was shipped. Also, the package is listed as 6 pounds coming from OH but their profile says it comes from CA. There is no way the headband I ordered is 6 pounds and I believe they lied again about even shipping it. This is too much to deal with and I just want my money back. I will NEVER order from then again.
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        (First appearance (Mar. 2015)of her telling customers the mega-delays were due to moving their warehouse from CA to OH.) Wait …still building my case!

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    • Correction: Rob Kalin, Etsy’s founder and the architect of its social mission, isn’t involved with the company anymore and goes unmentioned in the company’s IPO documents. His distance, in fact, stands as proof that bridging investor interests with the common good is a tough balancing act. Kalin was ousted from Etsy by venture capital investors in 2011 amid poor performance. http://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2015/03/04/etsy-ipo-wall-street-rob-kalin/
      I guess Chad is still there… 😦

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      • Rob actually hired Chad DICKerson…during a board meeting the backbiters & corporate jackoffs ousted Rob & lo & behold Mr. DICKerson took the helm. Since day one, Chad has been plotting & planning & manipulating, lying & “redefining” & opening the door to massive reselling/counterfeiting/copyright infringement. It is all part of the master plan. Chad’s golden parachute ensures that even when he drives Etsy into the ground, he will eject loaded with mounds of cash & perks.

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  15. P.S. It is absolutely against the law to do what TBN is doing. Go to the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) that governs these sorts of things. Type in FTC – Threading your way through the Textiles Act. What TBN is doing is illegal on several different fronts. Removing a label from another country and not stating on the new lable that the garment is from China is illegal. Lableing something that is handmade that is not is illegal. The fact that Etsy management continued to let TBN represent themselves as handmade when they had knowledge that they may not be ( believe me , they an do math too) is also illegal. Reports your findings about TBN to the FTC for results.

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  16. I apologize to everyone for posting so much but I’m really eager to spread the word and find a way to hold Etsy accountable. It seems that from time to time a bunch of us get together online to complain about Etsy but nothing gets resolved and in the end the issue is forgotten. I do hope this time something more effective will get done.

    Aso, beware of your gmail account information being given to Etsy. When I clicked on “Connected Apps and Services” on my Gmail account today, I found out that Etsy had access to my email information. That happened after I posted this site’s link to a few Etsy team discussions and got an email from Etsy said I had gone against their rules, blah, blah, blah… I checked the gmail account that I used to open my Etsy shop and there wasn’t anything of the sort. I deleted their access to my account information immediately.

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  17. Strange coincidence (???) that during the CA port strike threebirdnest (in CA!) suddenly decides to “move their warehouse” to Ohio?! At this same point the massive influx of horrible reviews appear like clockwork…

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  18. Feed Me and Tell Me I’m Pretty Shirt, Graphic Tees, Screen Printed, Funny Shirts, Baseball T’s SIZE SMALL

    I ordered a shirt two weeks ago, and it still hasn’t even shipped.. yet I was charged a week ago. Very disappointed and I hope I receive my order.
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    Response by ThreeBirdNest (shop owner)

    We did move to a new warehouse and posted that all orders would be delayed 3-4 weeks. We understand this can be confusing and frustrating but we LOVE our customers and that is why we have been able to grow. We are now caught up and have an amazing system in place for shipping. We care deeply for each customer but it was important to organize the warehouse and shipping to offer you an amazing experience moving forward. We do apologize that you were caught in the middle.
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    (In this review also from March she admits they “moved the warehouse” across the country & claims all is peachy & tied up in pretty Chinese bows now!)

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  19. Proud Supporter of Messy Hair and Sweatpants Shirt, Graphic Tees, Screen Printed, Funny Shirts, Baseball T’s SIZE MEDIUM

    Worst customer service on etsy! Buyer beware! Never received product.
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    Response by ThreeBirdNest (shop owner)

    We pride ourselves in taking care of our customers. We had to move our warehouse across the country and it did take much longer than anticipated. We are 100% dedicated to our customers but unfortunately we did have a huge delay in shipping. We did offer you a large discount as well as reduced shipping for the inconvenience and now that we are up and running our shipping system is AMAZING and without delays 🙂 We hope to earn your trust back. xo
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    Ha! Check out their new & improved AMAZING shipping system! (Mar 2015 review)

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  20. Tiny Arrow Necklace, Affordable Charm Necklace, Fashion Jewelry, Gold Tiny Charm Necklace for Women, BFF Gift GOLD

    What a joke. Ordered two months ago and still haven’t received my order. Should’ve just ate $22. I get the same email every time I try to contact them and the ema says how sorry they are and my order just shipped!!! So exciting!!!! But it has never shipped. Lololololololololololol. Opening a case on etsy for this one.
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    And still, into April after the alleged new, “AMAZING” shipping system in place…

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  21. Turban Headband, Twist Hair Bands, Handmade Headbands, Serape Headband, Mixed Fabric Fashion Headband, Mexican Blanket Turband (HB-3921)

    I have no idea how this seller has any positive reviews. This was the worst experience I’ve ever had with any company ever. No exaggeration. I placed an order on 2/22 and never received it. I emailed them multiple times and received canned responses, false shipping promises and incorrect tracking numbers. It wasn’t until I reported it to Etsy (which they previously told me not to do because they would take care of it) that I got a refund. Funny that it took multiple days to receive a response asking for help, but only a couple hours to receive a response once Etsy got involved. BUYER BEWARE!!!!! This seller has no respect for their customers. Don’t listen to the “we moved warehouses” excuse – you’ll hear it and nothing else for months in the form of an automatic, copied and pasted reply.
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    Response by ThreeBirdNest (shop owner)

    We have been sellers on Etsy for 3.5 years and over the past 3 months have exploded with growth that we were not fully ready for. We moved to a new warehouse and now have an amazing system in place for this growth so that there will be no more delays. We do realize that many of our customers had long waits for emails, getting the product and responses from us. We deeply apologize for this and will always work with our customers to make things right. Please know this experience you had during this time is not normal at all and not the one I want you to have so I hope we can still make this right. We do appreciate your business so much. xo
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    April as well…I guess you get the gist. Lies, promises, bullshit galore…still having shipments take over 2 months (IF customers even get them at all!) OH! And check out the reviews for that silly American flag scarf…in one review the buyer bitches about a China tag in it, so Miss TBN uses the “oh! so sorry! That item is supposed to ONLY be on our website. This will never happen again.” HAHAHA…numerous other reviews for this SAME SCARF AFTER this bullshit tale!
    You can delete all of my excessive comments if you wish-just trying to provide you with as much info as I can so you can hopefully take it from here & work with it!

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  22. Well well well the class actions have begun against etsy hallelujah ! I myself will be filing a multimillion dollar suit this week with TV coverage on all the networks two of the class action suits that have been filed already have to do with defrauding investors a Bloomberg analyst said beware of the stock right after the ipo he said that 5% of the products sold on shitsy are fake it’s more like 80 plus percent this is what happened to me I have been in the celebrity clothing business since 1975 doing work for all the major stars from all over I have over 125,000 licensee agreements my daughter wanted to start a shop on etsy with her designs and my liscened designs she was doing incredible shitsy flagged her shop and accused her if not making the product I was furious I sent the shitsy dept a video and they put her back on immediately now this is the good stuff they now have closed her shop due to copyright infringement ie Bruce lee family guy Elvis etc. I tried to explain to etsy but it’s like talking to a pile of dog crap so the lawyers for fox Bruce lee Elvis Presley ect sent legal proof that I have the license to create clothing with that image in so many words etsy could care less and sent total BS form letters well on my designs are legal they have hundreds if not thousands of shops bootlegging my celebrities nasty refuses to do anything about it so I have hired the largest class action law firm in the country based out of New York City to make shitys life a living hellI will be on all the major TV shows new shows talking about this if anyone wants to join in the class action has been legitimately wronged by etsy I will give you the law firms phone number of the attorney handling the case we already have over 5000 litigants that want to join the suit They are a horrible company and only kick off to the legit companies only cater to the bootleggers and counterfeiters on their site they have companies that are selling Incredibly mass-producedand bootleg product that Etsy I’m sure knows about but won’t do anything you do the money that’s being paid to them from all their illegal sales Between my lawsuit the security exchange commission’s lawsuit and others and have already been filed and I hope that etsy changes their business and selling practice because if they don’t the public will soon realize that the truth is and etsy will go by the way of the rest of these fly-by-night companies

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    • As a seller I would like to get people to consider a class action and if any firm is interested please contact me. I have kept some and more now records of the shops I have reported for reselling on etsy for over a year. I am not the only one. There are hundreds of people who have been shut down for making waves or have closed shop for loss of sales due to Etsy knowingly and blatantly ignoring its own policies in lew of greed. This type of action by Etsy has cost me personally unknown thousands of dollars. I cannot compete against cheap Chinese wholesale items or the seller who crosses the border and resells Mexican dresses for $20 bucks or the hundreds of sellers selling the exact same mouse ring or phone case or etc etc.
      I report these shops regularly. I also when I can attach links to the wholesalers like Alibaba and Sammydress.com and not only link but the exact item on link if I am really being anal. Yet in near 2 yrs NOT ONE OF THESE SHOPS HAVE BEEN REMOVED and more and more every day..
      With the smallest amount of due diligence these shops should never have been allowed to open in the first place and than to be made aware and knowingly avoid enforcing ones policies at the expense of thousands of honest, complying, hard working people who in their own way are the real investors of Etsy is criminal.
      Anyone wanting to pursue a lawsuit against them for millions in lost revenue please let me know. Any firm willing to take this on please let me know.

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